NH OUTLOOK, Monday, 6/16/2003
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Hello. I'm Allison McNair. Welcome to NH Outlook.
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On this edition of Outlook.
A new report on America's oceans says the seas are overfished.
We'll look at what the findings mean for commercial fleets in New Hampshire and New England.
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And later, we'll take you to a seacoast store where fish is a family business. We'll give you a global view of the fish at your local market.
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But first, the future of the fishing industry in New Hampshire.
The industry is small and getting smaller.
Federal restrictions limit where, when and how fleets go about their business.
Some fishermen say that's putting them out of work, in some cases permanently.
And now, a new report paints a bleak picture of ocean resources.
Chip Neal reports on the fisherman's quandry.
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Chip Neal revisits a New Hampshire commercial fisherman a year after new fishing regulations threatened his livelyhood. David Goethel, one of New Hampshire's inshore fishermen had to make do with fewer allowed days at sea as well as new closures of fishing areas and restrictions on his gear. Now, a year later, things are not looking any better for him. In fact a landmark national oceans study was just released with recommendations which will hurt the New Hampshire fishermen even more. The Pew Oceans Commission Report recommends a National Oceans Agency to oversee the rebuilding of fishing stocks, cleaning up polluted coastal waters, protecting estuaries, regulating marine aquaculture and more. And another Government Oceans Commission report due out in the fall is expected to echo many of these recommendations. We hear how these regulations have affected David Goethel forcing him to use larger meshed nets, and forcing him to travel 40 miles to fish instead of 6. The numbers of days he is allowed to fish is also decreasing. Dr. Andy Rosenberg , UNH Dean of Life Sciences and Agriculture, and former deputy director of the National Marine Fisheries Services, responds to the fishermen's concerns by reminding them that our point of view about the oceans has to change even if it is a painful process, or our fisheries stock will crash.
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In the studio with us now we have Rollie Barnaby currently the Fisheries Extension Specialist with the Rockingham County Extension Service. Rollie was a commercial fisherman and a former president of the Portsmouth Fishermen's Coop. Also with us is Dr. Andy Rosenberg currently the Dean of Life Sciences and Agriculture at UNH, he is also a member of the National Ocean Policy Commission, and a former Deputy Director of the National Marine Fisheries Service. Thank you both for being here with us today.
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- First of all let's answer David Goethel's question at the end of that piece. Do NH's commercial fishermen have to be exterminated to be saved? Both answer.
- ways in which the Pew Oceans Report recommendations would affect NH fishermen?
- Andy talk briefly about the fact that there are two commissions the Pew Oceans Commission a private entity which just came out with their report. And a National Oceans Commission appointed by the government which will come out with their report in the fall. Andy is a member of this government commission. Talk about the differences and similarities between the two reports.
- talk about the recommendation for a new National Oceans Agency to oversee fisheries restoration, coastal waters cleanup, marine aquaculture and more.
- don't we already have much of this governance in place with the National Marine Fisheries Service and the regiona councils?
- some express hope that marine aquaculture can replace the portion of the fishing industry that does not survive. Is this true.
- how are the estuaries an important part of our fisheries and what is the health of our estuaries in NH.
- Pollution of our coastal waters
- How much can national policy do without global cooperation?
- Is the public ready to look at our oceans in a new way. How much of a chance is there of these recommendations becoming law and policy?
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So once the fish are caught, where do they end up? Restaurants and fish stores, you might think, buy directly from local fishermen and women. That's not necessarily the case. Producer Phil Vaughn visited a store in Rye to find out what kinds of fish are being sold and where they're coming from.
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Quick cuts of people butchering fish
Narr 1 - For the Hebert brothers fish, it seems, is a birthright.
Michael - 1-4824 "My favorite? I'll eat anything."
Narr 2 - Michael and Justine have been around the fish business their entire lives.
Justine - 1-3600 "23 years."
Narr 3 - Which is how long their parents - John and Colleen have owned the Seaport Fish Company in Rye.
Justine 1-3610 "My dad started out hustling haddock out of the back of his truck. Over time he was selling more and more fish and making more money."
Narr 4 - The family still sells haddock, and a whole lot more.
Justine/Michael 2 -4605 "We have……"
John 2-2100 "I'm making Thai shrimp soup."
Narr 5 - John Kelley is the shop's gourmet cook. He's been sharing his recipes and selling his specialties to customers from the beginning. At that time, their fish supply was just a short drive away.
John 2-2325 "When we first started we bought from a local co-op. We were buying about 200 pounds a day. And as we started to grow we found we had to go to Boston to buy the fish. Locals simply didn't have enough product to supply us with what we needed."
Justine 1-3755 "There's a guy who wants to get the co-op back and running. I hope he does, we'll take a ride over to see what he has."
Narr 6 - But for now, it's off to Boston every morning at 4:30.
Justine 1-2400 "My dad does that. He enjoys going to Boston and buying."
Michael 1 - 2910 "We have fish from all over the world."
Justine/Michael 2-4650 "We get them from the East, West, Italy…"
Justine 1-2920 "There are great fish in the freezer. Have you been in there?"
Shot of Justine leading us in to freezer.
Justine 1-3055 "This is where we keep the fresh fish. We go through all of this in a day."
Shot of Justine carrying out large fish
Narr 7 - And in a week?
Justine/Michael 2-4840 "In a week? We go through 15,000 pounds of Haddock, 5,000 of…a total of 50,000 pounds."
Shot of Justine on phone with restaurant cut to shot of Michael asking "Is this one for the country club?"
Narr 8 - The Heberts sell this and that to restaurants, hotels and anyone who enjoys fish.
Justine 1-3510 "We're here to serve everyone."
Shot of putting fish in bag for customer
Justine 1-4140 "You've got to be a people person. You have to have a relationship with everyone who comes through that door."
Narr 9 - Selling is an art that the Hebert boys have learned well.
Shot of Michael cutting up tuna
Michael 1-4415 "We've got omegas here kid. I've got one key to a good life and its right here. Fish!"
Michael/Justine 2-4410 "Are you guys going to be here 23 years from now? Yes and by then, our children came come in and learn the business just like we did."
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On the next New Hampshire Outlook -
A conversation with Health and Human Services Commissioner Nick Vailas. The newly appointed commissioner talks about people, programs, compassion and the bottom line.
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That's it for this edition of our program. I'm Ally McNair. Thanks for joining us.
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Tonight on New Hampshire Outlook.
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Join us tonight at 10:00.
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NEW HAMPSHIRE OUTLOOK Air Date/Time: 6/16/03 22:00
HOST: Allison McNair Length: 26:46 minutes
In this edition of New Hampshire Outlook, NHPTV's nightly news magazine, in this program, a new report on America's oceans says the seas are overfished. And later, we'll take you to a seacoast store where fish is a family business. We'll give you a global view of the fish at your local market. We'll look at what the findings mean for commercial fleets in New Hampshire and New England. But first, the future of the fishing industry in New Hampshire. The industry is small and getting smaller. Federal restrictions limit where, when and how fleets go about their business. Some fishermen say that's putting them out of work, in some cases permanently. And now, a new report paints a bleak picture of ocean resources. Chip Neal reports on the fisherman's quandry. In the studio with us Rollie Barnaby currently the Fisheries Extension Specialist with the Rockingham County Extension Service. Rollie was a commercial fisherman and a former president of the Portsmouth Fishermen's Coop. Also with us is Dr. Andy Rosenberg currently the Dean of Life Sciences and Agriculture at UNH, he is also a member of the National Ocean Policy Commission, and a former Deputy Director of the National Marine Fisheries Service. So once the fish are caught, where do they end up? Restaurants and fish stores, you might think, buy directly from local fishermen and women. That's not necessarily the case. Producer Phil Vaughn visited a store in Rye to find out what kinds of fish are being sold and where they're coming from.
PRODUCER/REPORTER: Chip Neal, Phil Vaughn NAME OF PARTICIPANTS: David Goethel\NH Commercial Fisherman, Leon Panetta\Chair, Pew Oceans Commission, Dr. Andy Rosenberg\Member, Nat'l Ocean Policy Commission, Dean, UNH Life Sciences & Agriculture, Fmr Dep Dir, National Marine Fisheries Service, Ellen Goethel\Marine Biologist, Tony Knowles\Former Governor Alaska, Member Pew Oceans Commission, Pietro Parravano\Fisherman, Member, Pew Oceans Commission, Rollie Barnaby\UNH Cooperative Extension, Justin Hebert\Seaport Fish, John Kelley\Seaport Fish, Michael Hebert\Seaport Fish
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NEW HAMPSHIRE OUTLOOK Air Date/Time: 6/16/03 22:00
HOST: Allison McNair Length: 26:46 minutes
In this edition of New Hampshire Outlook, NHPTV's nightly news magazine, in this program, a new report on America's oceans says the seas are overfished. And later, we'll take you to a seacoast store where fish is a family business. We'll give you a global view of the fish at your local market. We'll look at what the findings mean for commercial fleets in New Hampshire and New England. But first, the future of the fishing industry in New Hampshire. The industry is small and getting smaller. Federal restrictions limit where, when and how fleets go about their business. Some fishermen say that's putting them out of work, in some cases permanently. And now, a new report paints a bleak picture of ocean resources. Chip Neal reports on the fisherman's quandry. In the studio with us Rollie Barnaby currently the Fisheries Extension Specialist with the Rockingham County Extension Service. Rollie was a commercial fisherman and a former president of the Portsmouth Fishermen's Coop. Also with us is Dr. Andy Rosenberg currently the Dean of Life Sciences and Agriculture at UNH, he is also a member of the National Ocean Policy Commission, and a former Deputy Director of the National Marine Fisheries Service. So once the fish are caught, where do they end up? Restaurants and fish stores, you might think, buy directly from local fishermen and women. That's not necessarily the case. Producer Phil Vaughn visited a store in Rye to find out what kinds of fish are being sold and where they're coming from.
PRODUCER/REPORTER: Chip Neal, Phil Vaughn NAME OF PARTICIPANTS: David Goethel\NH Commercial Fisherman, Leon Panetta\Chair, Pew Oceans Commission, Dr. Andy Rosenberg\Member, Nat'l Ocean Policy Commission, Dean, UNH Life Sciences & Agriculture, Fmr Dep Dir, National Marine Fisheries Service, Ellen Goethel\Marine Biologist, Tony Knowles\Former Governor Alaska, Member Pew Oceans Commission, Pietro Parravano\Fisherman, Member, Pew Oceans Commission, Rollie Barnaby\UNH Cooperative Extension, Justin Hebert\Seaport Fish, John Kelley\Seaport Fish, Michael Hebert\Seaport Fish
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NEW HAMPSHIRE OUTLOOK Air Date/Time: 6/16/03 22:00
HOST: Allison McNair Length: 26:46 minutes
In this edition of New Hampshire Outlook, NHPTV's nightly news magazine, in this program, a new report on America's oceans says the seas are overfished. And later, we'll take you to a seacoast store where fish is a family business. We'll give you a global view of the fish at your local market. We'll look at what the findings mean for commercial fleets in New Hampshire and New England. But first, the future of the fishing industry in New Hampshire. The industry is small and getting smaller. Federal restrictions limit where, when and how fleets go about their business. Some fishermen say that's putting them out of work, in some cases permanently. And now, a new report paints a bleak picture of ocean resources. Chip Neal reports on the fisherman's quandry. In the studio with us Rollie Barnaby currently the Fisheries Extension Specialist with the Rockingham County Extension Service. Rollie was a commercial fisherman and a former president of the Portsmouth Fishermen's Coop. Also with us is Dr. Andy Rosenberg currently the Dean of Life Sciences and Agriculture at UNH, he is also a member of the National Ocean Policy Commission, and a former Deputy Director of the National Marine Fisheries Service. So once the fish are caught, where do they end up? Restaurants and fish stores, you might think, buy directly from local fishermen and women. That's not necessarily the case. Producer Phil Vaughn visited a store in Rye to find out what kinds of fish are being sold and where they're coming from.
PRODUCER/REPORTER: Chip Neal, Phil Vaughn NAME OF PARTICIPANTS: David Goethel\NH Commercial Fisherman, Leon Panetta\Chair, Pew Oceans Commission, Dr. Andy Rosenberg\Member, Nat'l Ocean Policy Commission, Dean, UNH Life Sciences & Agriculture, Fmr Dep Dir, National Marine Fisheries Service, Ellen Goethel\Marine Biologist, Tony Knowles\Former Governor Alaska, Member Pew Oceans Commission, Pietro Parravano\Fisherman, Member, Pew Oceans Commission, Rollie Barnaby\UNH Cooperative Extension, Justin Hebert\Seaport Fish, John Kelley\Seaport Fish, Michael Hebert\Seaport Fish
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